55HP - Why? - Guild Wars Forums

MasterThrawn · Mar 08, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36

OK - first off I tried the search and it did not work, and hasn't in some time.

My question is why do these builds require the HP to be lowered so much? What is the advantage of only having 55HP? I mean I know the Superior Runes lower your health by 75 each, but why reduce it so much (i.e. -50HP offhand). There must be a reason, just don't know what it is...

Thanks!

Skuld · Mar 08, 2006, 07:44 PM // 19:44

55hp -> prot spirit means you take 5 dmg per hit

if you had 105 it doesnt regen fats eough unless your against 2 or 3

33hp better imo, 8hp cant survive much degen

55 is just an easy to get to number, though all sorts of values can be got to

Zakarr · Mar 08, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52

Read the skill descriptions...

Protective Spirit

For 5-19 seconds, target ally cannot lose more than 10% max health due to damage from a single attack or spell.

Health degeneration, enchantment strippers, energy denial, well timed interrupt and Vampiric Touch skill are the weak points of this spell. Of course overwhelming damage spam will eventually counter health regeneration even you would lose only -5 health per damage taken unless you have 8 hp or 33 hp max health.

MasterThrawn · Mar 08, 2006, 07:57 PM // 19:57

OK - makes sense to me now. Thanks - I'm thinking about trying out a build... we'll see.

Sereng Amaranth · Mar 09, 2006, 04:47 AM // 04:47

How do you get 33hp? I have a 55 necro, and with 1 death I get to 13hp. BTW, 13hp = untouchable...for a while until DP is reduced.

Of course you can only take on 12 at a time, because on the off chance that 13 hit you at one time, you'd die.

darkMishkin · Mar 09, 2006, 11:25 AM // 11:25

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Originally Posted by Sereng Amaranth

How do you get 33hp? I have a 55 necro, and with 1 death I get to 13hp. BTW, 13hp = untouchable...for a while until DP is reduced.

Of course you can only take on 12 at a time, because on the off chance that 13 hit you at one time, you'd die.

Ye I used to go around with 13hp, just hoping the level up hp change wouldn't scare me to death.

I've heard of a rarer then rhinos -20hp axe, but getting 33hp without DP is beyond me.

Poison Ivy · Mar 09, 2006, 11:29 AM // 11:29

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Originally Posted by darkMishkin

Ye I used to go around with 13hp, just hoping the level up hp change wouldn't scare me to death.

I've heard of a rarer then rhinos -20hp axe, but getting 33hp without DP is beyond me.

Simply get a -77 hp item ^^ (who knows how)

Skuld · Mar 09, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54

33hp - 15% death penalty and a yakslapper (any other staff will do)

MasterThrawn · Mar 09, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05

OK - I think I'm missing some math here. I tried this last night (only the spells, don't have money for new armor yet) - and was trying to figure out why it matters if your losing only 5.5HP per hit with 55, or if your losing 43.5HP with 435HP because technically you should reach zero at the same time. Oh well - whatever I guess it must work, so I'll just have to save up for some new armor....

Toffin · Mar 09, 2006, 03:12 PM // 15:12

when you are at 55hp and have the two skills to give you a +5 hp regen per second it is negating itself. When having 435HP there is no skill that will regen 43 hp fast enough.

MasterThrawn · Mar 09, 2006, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Gotcha - I knew I was missing something basic

Thanks.

Hendorr · Mar 09, 2006, 04:47 PM // 16:47

A way to lower your health even more is Aura of the Lich. I don't know how much health you'll get but I think (55/2=27.5) 27 hp.
I don't know how you can get 33hp.

moriz · Mar 09, 2006, 04:50 PM // 16:50

there's a -20 health focus for a presearing quest. it's probably a good item for a beginning invincimonk until the -50 one becomes available.

Charqus · Mar 09, 2006, 05:08 PM // 17:08

how do ya get 13 health? 15 dp a wand and a -20 hp cesta?

vinegrower · Mar 09, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...onk-id1626.php
that will tell you everything you need to know.

darkMishkin · Mar 09, 2006, 06:04 PM // 18:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

there's a -20 health focus for a presearing quest. it's probably a good item for a beginning invincimonk until the -50 one becomes available.

I don't think there's such thing as a 'beginning' invincimonk, since they are by definition mortal.

Hendorr · Mar 10, 2006, 06:52 AM // 06:52

He just wants to say, that when you're not lvl 20 you can still get your health as low as possible. A -50 item will kill you with all the runes, a -20 will not kill you in the beginning. That's what moriz was trying to say.

Mar 08, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36	#1
MasterThrawn Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Gryffindor	55HP - Why? OK - first off I tried the search and it did not work, and hasn't in some time. My question is why do these builds require the HP to be lowered so much? What is the advantage of only having 55HP? I mean I know the Superior Runes lower your health by 75 each, but why reduce it so much (i.e. -50HP offhand). There must be a reason, just don't know what it is... Thanks!

Mar 08, 2006, 07:44 PM // 19:44	#2
Skuld Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr] Profession: A/	55hp -> prot spirit means you take 5 dmg per hit if you had 105 it doesnt regen fats eough unless your against 2 or 3 33hp better imo, 8hp cant survive much degen 55 is just an easy to get to number, though all sorts of values can be got to

Mar 08, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52	#3
Zakarr Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland	Read the skill descriptions... Protective Spirit For 5-19 seconds, target ally cannot lose more than 10% max health due to damage from a single attack or spell. Health degeneration, enchantment strippers, energy denial, well timed interrupt and Vampiric Touch skill are the weak points of this spell. Of course overwhelming damage spam will eventually counter health regeneration even you would lose only -5 health per damage taken unless you have 8 hp or 33 hp max health.

Mar 08, 2006, 07:57 PM // 19:57	#4
MasterThrawn Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Gryffindor	OK - makes sense to me now. Thanks - I'm thinking about trying out a build... we'll see.

Mar 09, 2006, 04:47 AM // 04:47	#5
Sereng Amaranth Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: The Amazon Basin [AB]	How do you get 33hp? I have a 55 necro, and with 1 death I get to 13hp. BTW, 13hp = untouchable...for a while until DP is reduced. Of course you can only take on 12 at a time, because on the off chance that 13 hit you at one time, you'd die.

Mar 09, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54	#8
Skuld Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr] Profession: A/	33hp - 15% death penalty and a yakslapper (any other staff will do)

Mar 09, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05	#9
MasterThrawn Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Gryffindor	OK - I think I'm missing some math here. I tried this last night (only the spells, don't have money for new armor yet) - and was trying to figure out why it matters if your losing only 5.5HP per hit with 55, or if your losing 43.5HP with 435HP because technically you should reach zero at the same time. Oh well - whatever I guess it must work, so I'll just have to save up for some new armor....

Mar 09, 2006, 03:12 PM // 15:12	#10
Toffin Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Camp Rankor Guild: No Diplomacy Only War [nDoW] No Diplomacy Only Slackers [nDoS] Looking for an Alliance. Profession: W/	when you are at 55hp and have the two skills to give you a +5 hp regen per second it is negating itself. When having 435HP there is no skill that will regen 43 hp fast enough.

Mar 09, 2006, 04:38 PM // 16:38	#11
MasterThrawn Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Gryffindor	Gotcha - I knew I was missing something basic Thanks.

Mar 09, 2006, 04:47 PM // 16:47	#12
Hendorr Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Enschede Guild: W.o.F. Profession: N/Me	A way to lower your health even more is Aura of the Lich. I don't know how much health you'll get but I think (55/2=27.5) 27 hp. I don't know how you can get 33hp.

Mar 09, 2006, 04:50 PM // 16:50	#13
moriz ??ber t??k-n??sh'??n Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Profession: R/	there's a -20 health focus for a presearing quest. it's probably a good item for a beginning invincimonk until the -50 one becomes available.

Mar 09, 2006, 05:08 PM // 17:08	#14
Charqus Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: Mo/	how do ya get 13 health? 15 dp a wand and a -20 hp cesta?

Mar 09, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47	#15
vinegrower Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Song of the Forsaken Profession: E/	http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...onk-id1626.php that will tell you everything you need to know.

Mar 10, 2006, 06:52 AM // 06:52	#17
Hendorr Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Enschede Guild: W.o.F. Profession: N/Me	He just wants to say, that when you're not lvl 20 you can still get your health as low as possible. A -50 item will kill you with all the runes, a -20 will not kill you in the beginning. That's what moriz was trying to say.